The Nate Green Experience

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What I Eat (Almost) Every Day

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Let's start this post off right: I don't count calories, I don't give a shit about how much protein I take in, I don’t carry Tupperware everywhere I go, and I really, really like microbrews.

I'm also 8 percent body-fat and 185 pounds.

Genetics? Sure.

Do I kill it in the gym? Murder, baby.

But those are only two pieces to the overall puzzle. The third?

I know how to eat.

OK, enough joking around.


I had fun writing that intro, although it does make me come off like a douchebag. Sometimes you gotta entertain yourself, right?

Anyway, all the above is true. I really don't care about much protein I get; I just know I get "enough," which is fine by me. I've never really counted calories before, either. When I was in the transition phase from 150 pounds to 180 pounds I was probably taking in around 4,000 total calories, but that's really just based off one day of actually tracking my food. I couldn’t keep up with it any longer than 12 hours – it was just so damn boring and time-consuming.

After years of training, listening to my body, gaining muscle, losing fat, tweaking my physique, taking foods out, introducing new ones, and reading articles, books, and blogs about nutrition, I've got a few rules I follow. (But that's a topic for an upcoming post.)

For now, let's get into what a day of eating looks like for me. Hopefully it'll help you make better food choices or at least let you know you're on the right track. (Unless, of course, I'm on the wrong track. Then we're both fucked.)

Note: I'm not including workout nutrition in this post. If there's enough interest, I'll do a separate one on that, because I think it's very important. Still, I want to point out how crucial actual food is.

Breakfast

Non-food staples:

Water
Coffee

Option 1:
3 eggs from pasture-raised chickens, 2 turkey sausage links, and some kind of fruit (kiwi, banana, strawberries, pineapple, etc.)

Option 2:
1/2 cup rolled oats with 1 scoop of protein powder and frozen blueberries or raspberries.

Option 3:
3 turkey sausage links, sweet potato hash browns, and fruit.


Lunch and Dinner (interchangeable)

Non-food staples:€

Water
1 microbrew or a glass of wine. (Dinner)

A few rules:

- I always have a protein source, usually from meat.
- I always have vegetables. My favorites are green beans, broccoli, red peppers, onions, carrots, peas, mushrooms, tomatoes and squash.
- Lunches usually have a starch like potatoes or rice.
- Sometimes, just for the hell of it, I'll eat breakfast food for dinner.

Option 1:
Steak, cherry tomatoes, and mushrooms.

Option 2:
Roasted or sautéed chicken, rice, and broccoli.

Option 3:
Baked wild-caught salmon, tilapia, or halibut with asparagus.

Option 4:
Sirloin burgers (grass-fed), sweet potato, and peas.

Option 5:
Chicken skewers with apple, pineapple, onion, and red pepper.

Option 6:
Chicken Caesar salad or a salad made with apple, sausage, quinoa, and spinach.

Option 7:
Homemade chili or soup with beef or chicken, beans, and veggies.

Option 8:
Huge turkey bratwurst with quinoa and vegetables.

A few random foods I eat at random times

Sometimes I just don't feel like cooking, and it's not uncommon to find me at a restaurant eating:

-Tacos
-Burgers (no fries)
-Sandwiches


Of course, I’m not restricted to the above options (regular meals or random foods). I just wanted to give you an idea of a typical meal plan with the foods I eat most frequently.

If we had to break all the meals down you'd see I have:


1. Protein with every meal
2. Little to no processed carbohydrates.
3. Lots of vegetables.
4. Organic fruits and vegetables and humanely-raised grass-fed beef and free range chicken and turkey. (I'm gonna be honest here: it's less about how the animals are treated and more about the nutritional profile of the meat I'm concerned about. Sorry.)
5. Lots of water.
6. No crazy restrictions.

So how does your daily meal plan match up with mine? How does it differ? I'd really like to know.

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Comments for This Entry

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    David 10:20am Nov 3, 2009

    hey thanks Nate! This really helped. Being in college very often I either feel like i starve myself because of a lack of budget or taht I eat quick and bad foods (again because of low budget and little time). I am really trying to implement healthy dieting so I can see the results of hard work in the gym.

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    David 10:21am Nov 3, 2009

    Any extra help would be great as well!

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    Sean 10:28am Nov 3, 2009

    Breakfast is always huge ( mainly because I usually do some training in the morning) and consists of:

    -3 omega-3 eggs

    -broccoli, peppers and black beans

    -rolled oats

    -blueberries

    -toast with 2 tbsp of omega-3 peanut butter

    -coffee

    Lunch is usually either ground turkey or chicken with some nuts and a piece of fruit and dinner is usually some other meat, veggies, and some fruit. I'll snack on some cottage cheese and chia seeds between large meals throughout the day. usually eat every 3 hours because for convenience sake,

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    Colm 10:49am Nov 3, 2009

    Hey, thanks a million for the article. I noticed how you said at the end ''little to no processed carbs''. Was this the case during you're initial bulking phase? I think I'd go crazy if I was only having fruits or vegetables with every meal. Are they excusable if you're trying to get stronger? I'm trying to ''clean bulk'', and at the moment I pretty much guzzle a pint of milk and some oats after almost every meal.Is this ok?

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    Yudi 10:57am Nov 3, 2009

    Great post, Nate.

    I totally agree with you and I approach my eating in the same way.

    Another great meal to whip up is a veggie/sausage omelet - 3 eggs, a ton of different veggies and some sausage links all thrown together in one delicious meal. Can't beat it for breakfast.

    Also, for people looking for a good source of carbs that aren't processed I highly recommend Ezekiel Bread - it's awesome stuff.

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    Wayne 10:57am Nov 3, 2009

    Also noticed that you have not listed many of the typical fats seen in fitness diets, nuts, seeds, or oils. Is this by design?

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    Chase Karnes 11:28am Nov 3, 2009

    Nate,

    Looks pretty solid. Great post!

    Currently I am about 198-200 at 12% bodyfat. Trying to get to about 205ish by mid-Dec in preparation for my next strongman competition. Calories are very high right now.

    Breakfast:

    This shake- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwTon-o3Sjk

    +mixed berries and spinach

    Lunch:

    2 Turkey and 2% cheese sandwiches on 100% whole wheat

    1 glass 2% organic milk

    Piece of fruit

    Dinner: (One of the following + veggies and sometimes additional carbs)

    Greek Burger (or)

    Chili (or)

    The Perfect Steak (or)

    Chinese Fajitas (or)

    Steak, potato at steak house (or)

    Sushi (2 Rainbow rolls)

    Pre Bed:

    Breakfast Shake again

    Not shown pre/peri/post workout nutrition and other snacks throughout the day.

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    Chris 12:01pm Nov 3, 2009

    Quote: ddn - "Glancing at that, you're taking in maybe 1600 calories at most."

    Nate didn't list any portion sizes for lunch or dinner... his Chili is probably served in a bucket :)

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    Tonee 12:05pm Nov 3, 2009

    Nate, I really would like to see your workout nutrition protocol - perhaps prior to the Colorado experience and since...

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    Jake Manning 12:29pm Nov 3, 2009

    Hey Nate, great article, shows how complicated some people make it look! I just wrote up a new diet plan I'm following from now on going into a bulk phase, I've been eating 90+% clean for a couple of months at least now but not been getting enough calories to really increase my weight.

    Meal 1: 4 turkey sausage sandwich. 1 scoop whey, 2 scoop ultra fine oats. 2 fish oils. 5g creatine (non workout days)

    Meal 2: Snack, 1 cup yogurt, 1 scoop protein.

    Meal 3: 200-250 grams lean beef mince or chicken/turkey breast, sandwich/quinoa/cous cous/sweet potatoe. Side carrot.

    Meal 4: As meal 2

    Meal 5: Big steak 300g or more, 200g potatoe/sweet, broccoli/sweetcorn

    Meal 6: snack/maybe nuts/fruit. 200-300 cals

    Meal 7: Whey/Casien shake. 2 fish oil. 200 cals

    Calories/macros wise I did actually work it out as roughly over 3500, protein over 300, carbs 250ish, Fat 100ish, workout days i just add a big ass Dextrose/whey mix, but am starting to think there are better options. Any opinions on my diet?

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    Nick 12:35pm Nov 3, 2009

    Nice to see someone else who appreciates the better nutritional value of cage free eggs and free range chicken. People think I'm crazy when I spend the (significantly) extra money for these. What I try to explain is all of the research that backs the fact that these products really do have better nutritional value...they just don't want to hear it.

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    Ryan 1:40pm Nov 3, 2009

    Cool post. Do you like Tim Ferris' diet?

    http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/blog/2007/04/06/how-to-lose-20-lbs-of-fat-in-30-days-without-doing-any-exercise/

    Not enough whole grains? Any other critiques?

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    Rudy 2:09pm Nov 3, 2009

    Great post. It would be great if we could see your workout nutrition.

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    Adam 2:33pm Nov 3, 2009

    Breakfast: 2 hard boiled eggs, 2/3 cup Oatmeal w/ raisins, cinnamon, and almond milk.

    Morning snack: Protein shake, piece of fruit (usually a pear)

    Lunch: Turkey sandwich on whole-grain or sprout bread. non-fat yogurt, piece of cheese.

    Afternoon snack: handfull of almonds or frozen edamame.

    Dinner: Lots of chicken or fish, whole grains, veggies.

    Lots of water throughout.

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    Kevin 3:05pm Nov 3, 2009

    For bulking up, what kinds of snacks do you usually add in addition to your regular meals? I would also like to see what your diet is like for workout days. How does this change when you're going from bulking up to fat loss and muscle maintenance/weight maintenance?

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    Blake Theisen 3:41pm Nov 3, 2009

    I like brats that have been boiled in beer, with sauerkraut, mustard, and relish.

    oh yea...and "stillborn avian byproducts"...haha best name ever for an egg!!

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    Colm 4:23pm Nov 3, 2009

    I live in Ireland, and I'v never even heard of a Turkey Sausage. Are they all their cracked up to be?

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    Colm 4:23pm Nov 3, 2009

    I live in Ireland, and I'v never even heard of a Turkey Sausage. Are they all their cracked up to be?

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    Nick 4:33pm Nov 3, 2009

    @Colm: Turkey sausage is good, but I really like chicken sausage. Especially spicy chicken sausage!

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    Nate Green 5:02pm Nov 3, 2009

    Thanks to everyone for their comments! You guys rock.

    @ Colm

    I'll have a "bulking" post here in the next week or so. But no, it's not bad to have oats and milk. When I say "processed" carbs I mean a lot of the shit that comes out of boxes and things like microwave burritos and whatnot.

    @ ddn

    My portion sizes are usually pretty gigantic. Also, I tend to snack a bunch throughout the day without thinking about it. Oh, and my workout nutrition is pretty hefty with the calories when I want it to be.

    @ Wayne

    Good observation. I actually get a lot of fat from avocados, olive oil, coconut oil, almond and peanut butters, walnuts (added to my oatmeal), and, of course, saturated fat from my steaks. I also take Flameout fish oil caps.

    @ Chase,

    That's a lot of calories! Good luck, man; you're an insatiable beast.

    @ Jake

    Looks pretty solid, man. 300 grams of protein is a freakin' ton, though. You may not need it all...

    @ Nick

    Good call. I will probably never buy another "99 cents for a dozen" eggs ever again.

    @ Ryan

    Tim's a bad-ass an I'm sure the diet works pretty well. Still, I don't think I could eat the EXACT same foods every day.

    @ Rudy

    I'll let you know that pretty soon!

    -Nate

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    J.C. 5:25pm Nov 3, 2009

    breakfast: 1 cup cooked steel-cut oats, 1 cup egg-whites with 1 yolk from local chickens that lay the occasional blue egg... I only eat one a day because it is 8 bucks for a dozen of these puppies, fruit and 3-4 double espressos throughout the morning.

    snack: 25 grams whey, PB&J on flour-less sprouted bread, home-made jam usually wild blueberry... I use little sugar and reduce lots of mashed blueberries with some pectin and a little lemon juice.

    lunch: 8 oz. chicken or turkey, 1 medium sweet potato or 1 cup quinoa or rice, 1 cup veggies (whatever is fresh at the market)

    I'm either running around or in class... if it has been a lazy day I may make a cup of coffee and relax with book or my computer.

    snack: Zero Impact protein bar Roasted Coconut or Pumpkin Supreme are the only flavors I like. These shit on Metabolic Drive Bars as far as ingredients and nutritional profile go. The taste... not so much, but that is not my concern.

    dinner: chicken, turkey or fish, 1 cup squash, 1 cup veggies... Squash is the only complex carb I'll eat with dinner unless I'm drained from training or my blood sugar is a little low. I keep all my dinners low carb and generally take 6 flameout. I'm really active during the day so at night is when I like to load on the omegas and lounge around. When I'm home up north I can get really good pastured berkshire pork from a local farm along with lamb, bison and beef. I'm currently in Florida and it is hard to find "happy" animals. Chicken and Turkey are so lean the fat profile doesn't bother me, fish is very easy to get wild here. Gulf Coast wild Snapper is unbelievable. If I'm studying wine which is usually 3-4 weeknights I'll have a few glasses, but recently I have been reading more than tasting, I save the craft beer for the occasional rarities and weekends.

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    Konstantin 6:31pm Nov 3, 2009

    I hated counting calories, but it was really helpful for one reason: I learned what specific amounts of calories look like. For example, I now know, visually, what an 800-calorie breakfast looks like. I learned that a quick 500-cal protein/fat shake consists of a glass of milk, scoop of protein and shot of olive oil. Little things like these really help make life easier when you not only don't want to count calories, but don't have time to, either.

    My meal plan is similar, but it involves more carbs (due to a really hectic lifestyle and about 8 hours of training a week), and the animal protein sources aren't that clean. Hey, when on a serious budget, beggars can't be choosers - getting 6 pounds of lower-quality pork for 15 bucks beats starving for grass-fed. In terms of snacks throughout the day, a baggie of mixed nuts, and another of mixed dried fruit, really help in terms of staying fed and sane.

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    Sammy 7:07pm Nov 3, 2009

    Breakfast: Omelet (3 eggs, tomato and cheese). Glass of whole milk.

    Lunch: Steak, beans and some vegetables.

    Afternoon Meal: Yogurt, banana and oats. Maybe an apple.

    Pre-Workout: Milk, Whey and Coffee (that's a great "Wheypuccino" :D

    Post Workout: Milk, Whey, banana.

    Dinner: Chicken breast, vegetables.

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    Chris G 11:49pm Nov 3, 2009

    Great post, particularly helpful for me. It's shown me a great indication the better choices I could make in regards to my eating.

    My diet sucks. I hardly eat breakfast and I hate eating lunch at school. But my home-made-mom-cooked dinners are the best. This has helped me really see how to better improve my meals.

    As a 17-year-old twig, I hope these blog posts will help me gain some weight and improve my eating particularly at school.

    Thanks heaps, you're a legend!

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    Daniel Clough 4:51am Nov 4, 2009

    Our approaches are pretty much the same, which is as you would expect seeing as I am a big PN fan too.

    I tend to eat 5 meals, plus a post workout meal on training days.

    Breakfast for me is usual 3 eggs (2 whole, 1 white) scrambled or into an omelette with cheese and sausage

    I have a mid morning snack which is always a Novus protein bar, a handful of cashew nuts and 4 grams of fish oil.

    Lunch is pretty varied and always includes lean meat, fresh vegetables and 4 grams of fish oil. normally beef stir fry, classic chicken (from PN) or sirloin kebabs (from PN)

    Mid afternoon snack is always a couple of tablespoons of low fat greek yoghurt, two nitrean protein shakes and a 2 g of fish oil.

    I train about 5pm, so on training days, I take an Opticen shake afterwards.

    Then Dinner is the same as lunch. On training days, I chuck some carbs in, normally coconut curry chickpeas/brown vegetable rice/jacket potato etc.

    I try and follow that at as closely as I can for Mon through to Saturday evening and then do what I want on Saturday evening and then have a relaxed day on Sunday - clean but not following the above.

    From reading your post, you reminded me I need more veg and water :)

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    Juan 8:20am Nov 4, 2009

    Nate: Good stuff. I would be very interested in your workout nutrition post and bulking diet post if you post them.

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    Zac 1:00pm Nov 4, 2009

    Good read! I am happy to see that we are on the same nutrition wise (yours cleaner than mine). It's even better to see a micro brew fanatic! I'd be interested in seeing your workout nutrition also! Thanks!

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    Mike T Nelson 1:14pm Nov 4, 2009

    Good stuff Nate!

    If I could wave my magical nutrition wand over most (not the people here of course) it would the same are your post - stop worrying so much about food. Get the basics down first, do those, and adjust calories as needed (many ways to do that).

    You could argue that spending so much time worrying about the exact specific food as the exact specific time is causing you to increase your cortisol levels. ha.

    The stimulus created in the gym is the most important, followed a close second by calories. Ideally keeping most of your calories "natural" is best.

    Rock on

    Mike T Nelson PhD(c)

    http://www.ExtremeHumanPerformance.com

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    Ian 1:18pm Nov 4, 2009

    Interesting that you've only got 3 meals here instead of the doctrinally standard 6 to 8 -- but then your snacking probably takes care of the rest, eh? It would be interesting to know what your standard snack-foods are too.

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    Nate Green 1:47pm Nov 4, 2009

    There are a lot of great posts here, guys. Thanks for joining in.

    @ J.C.

    That's a nice-looking plan.

    @ Konstantin

    I agree it's very important to "know" why 500 calories looks like. Without sounding too hippie-ish, if we could all just be a bit more mindful of when we're actually "full", things would go much better for guys struggling with being a fat ass. :) I'll have a blog about that soon, though.

    @ Daniel

    Nice of you to drop by, sir.

    @ Mike

    Exactly.

    @ Ian

    I think the six to eight meals a day thing is bullshit, really. Also, if you take in account the whole protein pulsing method (letting your protein levels drop for a few hours and then spiking it again to start protein synthesis) it makes more sense to eat less frequently.

    Again, thanks to all for the comments!

    -Nate

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    Rob K. 5:05pm Nov 4, 2009

    Great article. It's important for everyone (myself included) to know that restriction on the average joe level (t-nation affectionately calls "weekend warriors") should be moderate, but not completely bias on everything. Bodybuilders and athletes need to keep their diet in check for a majority of the time. But for the rest of us, it's important to just be healthy, make right choices, and raise a middle finger to the majority of mainstream diet schemes, pills, and advice shoved down our throats everyday.

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    Jason Pegg 8:17pm Nov 4, 2009

    Great post Nate. It seems that much like training everyone wants to make the diet stuff so much harder than it needs to be.

    Jason

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    Howard 3:37am Nov 5, 2009

    Nice! I like how you keep things simple.

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    paul_h 4:04am Nov 5, 2009

    "@ Ian

    I think the six to eight meals a day thing is bullshit, really. Also, if you take in account the whole protein pulsing method (letting your protein levels drop for a few hours and then spiking it again to start protein synthesis) it makes more sense to eat less frequently.

    Again, thanks to all for the comments!

    -Nate "

    Thing is, I'd find it nigh on impossible to take in the 3500-4000 calories (cleanly!) I need without eating 6 meals a day. The only meal I have that's in the 1000 calorie range would be about one hour post workout, and even then it's tough getting it all down.

    Typical training day for me would be;

    6:am 200 grams sprouted wheat bread toasted with one table spoon cashew butter, two soft boiled omega 3 eggs, handful blueberries, 500mls water

    7:am-8:30am workout - two scoops surge sipped during the workout in 600mls

    water

    10:am 150 grams quinoa, 200g lean meat (varies between chicken, turkey, pork, beef, salmon), 2-3 servings of vegetables, 2 fish oil caps, 2000 IU Vit D. 500mls water

    12:30pm 250grams Quark cheese, one piece of fruit, handful of nuts (varies)

    2:30pm 200g lean meat, 2-3 servings veg, fat source (half an avocado/couple of tablespoons of Udo's choice or olive oil) 500mls water

    5:00pm - same as 2:30pm with different meat, 2 fish oil caps 500mls water

    8:00pm - omelet with 3 whole omega 3 eggs, 1-2 servings of veg, 2 fish oil caps 500mls water

    10:30pm - 250 grams cottage cheese, 1-2 tablespoons nut butter

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    JT 5:53am Nov 5, 2009

    Your food choices look fantastic and when I was your age I could get away with the amount of carbs but not anymore unless I want to get fat.

    Thanks for sharing your diet but it is obvious your age and genetics are the preeminent factors.

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    Chris Stella 6:55am Nov 5, 2009

    in my frig and cabinet

    Eggology Egg whites and Omega 3 Farm raised Eggs (5:1 ratio)

    Organic PB unsalted

    6-8 Bags Veggies for Week (10 servings a day)

    3 lbs Grilled Chicken

    16 oz Salmon

    Pinto Beans Dry

    Blue Berries, Bananas, Apples, Kiwi

    Protein Powder

    100& Whole Wheat Bread (the good type)

    Krill Oil, Fish Oil, CLA

    Olive Oil, Flax Oil

    Brown Rice

    Just rotate through my diet, i dont really give a shit when i eat what except most carbs from grains, starches, come after the gym or high anaerobic activity. thats just me

    oh yea

    Bourbon (Wild Turkey Right Now)

    Diet Green Tea

    Assortment of blue moon, honey ipa, Budweiser due to drunken friends forgetting to grab any of their leftovers

    Chris 1, Friends 0

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    Nate Green 8:54am Nov 5, 2009

    Thanks for the comments, guys.

    @ Paul H.

    Good point. I was referring to "maintenance", although I don't really like the word. I'm still in a position where I'm gaining muscle and strength, but I'm toying around with my workout nutrition and training more than anything.

    But, yeah, if I were trying to take in 4000 calories I'd probably eat 6 meals or so.

    @ Chris

    Now that's a nice-looking fridge!

    -Nate

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    Joacim 1:39pm Nov 5, 2009

    Great article Mr. Green :)

    My breakfast, best meal of the day. Love it, couldn't start the day without it. Almost a holy thing.

    At this early hour of the day I can really enjoy the food the most.

    I usualy eat 3 fried eggs. 2dl microwaved oatmeal. 2 hard bread sandwiches with liver paste. Multivitamin+Koffe/water.

    Lunch: Beef, tona,sushi, chicken, perhaps some random food on a diner witth a friend and some vegetables. Somtimes rise.

    Preworkout: Proteindrink, banana mabye some Musli.. Mabye some fruits.

    Dinner: Chicken breast, Eggs, beef, steak. and alot of vegetables. No rise or potatoes at the evening.

    And as you said nate, murder in the gym :)

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    the vert 2:14am Nov 6, 2009

    Nice concept. It is very interesting article here. I look forward to reading these blog, they always intrigue and interest me. Your choice is fantastic.

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    John Romaniello 12:50pm Nov 7, 2009

    Let me preface this by saying that I generally agree with you. What you do is pretty much what I do, and it works for both of us.

    That said, I wanted to offer an alternative perspective.

    I just wanted to offer this:

    What I have noticed over the past 8 years with my clients is that many people find boundaries necessary and--oddly--freeing. The more restrictions you place on them, the better they do.

    I think a plan like you or I follow--which I guess is what we'd call "instinctive" eating at this point--is the goal, not the starting point.

    For new trainees and clients who are transitioning from an unhealthy way of life with a tendency to overeat, I would maintain that there is a lot to be said for being strict and following something pretty rigid, even if it does border a bit on 'overthinking' it. I think t builds a strong habit.

    I also think it's important to look at things from a mental/emotional perspective. If you'll forgive me for getting all Freshman Psych on you, it's worth noting that a good part of training/dieting for body transformation is essentially the practice of exercising control over variables. Control is a big thing for a lot of people.

    For a lot of the bodybuilders I know, knowing exactly how many calories they eat and measuring protein and even water intake is not just part of the deal--from my observations, they find it intensely satisfying. I know I was like that when I was gearing myself to compete.

    Moreover, with regard to psychology(actually at this point we are onto Sophomore year psych): keep in mind that a lot of people find a home in bodybuilding because they are looking for a way to change. In order to validate that, they need to become part of that change.

    When people join a certain group or subculture, there is an immediate need/desire to take on certain characteristics of that group in an attempt to feel more accepted as a member. Therefore, you see guys who have been lifting weights for maybe 3 months start tanning and shaving their bodies: that is, they are mimicking the actions of established members of the group.

    Certainly, it's not hard to see that intentionally cultivating a "hardcore" mindset with regard to food intake is another extension of that.

    Take home: for a lot of guys, getting crazy about eating isn't necessary from a physiological perspective. That is, they could make comparable progress not doing it. However, from a socio-psychological perspective, for many people the control of the food feels more necessary than the food itself.

    Eventually, as people begin to become less enamored of the control, the lifestyle, and the hassle, a transition to instinctive eating (or something less structured) is probably the best way to go.

    Which, I think, is pretty much what you're getting at.

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    Chris G 5:17pm Nov 7, 2009

    Hey Nate,

    One thing I don't ever recall reading about is the actual training that you did during your big bulk. Not that I'm trying to find the 'perfect program' or anything, I'm interested in what it was that you did, and what it was that got you on track.

    Have I missed out on a blog on this, or are you thinking of doing one?

    Cheers,

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    Patrick C 11:41am Nov 8, 2009

    Hey Nate,

    Great blog! I highly recommend that you and your readers watch Food, Inc. a new documentary that has just been released on DVD. I know much about the industrialized food industry and this is one of the finer documentary's on the subject and if you do not want or do not have time to read the many books on the subject then you owe it to your health and the health of the people you care for to watch this. Keep up the great work Nate.

    http://www.amazon.com/Food-Inc-Eric-Schlosser/dp/B0027BOL4G/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1257708510&sr=8-1

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    dale 5:51am Nov 9, 2009

    Dead Guy Ale... excellent choice!

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    gary 9:59am Nov 9, 2009

    Hey nate how do you make those sweet potato hashbrowns? I'm thinking those sound awesome.

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    Jonathan 2:41pm Nov 11, 2009

    Breakfast at 7am

    - 6 turkey or chicken sausages, 4 large mushrooms sliced, one onion sliced, a big handful of spinach, with 3 whole eggs and 1 cup of egg white. A fruit (apple, orange, or two kiwis)

    OR

    - Nate's "Drat, I'm running late" breakfast with a fruit.

    -water

    Mid morning snack at 10am

    - shake of half of a banana and half cup of frozen assorted berries, one scoop of Greens+, two tablespoons of ground flax seed, one scoop of protein, 1 cup of water, and a bit of coconut

    Lunch at 12pm

    - chicken or salmon or ground beef. Salsa for the chicken or ground beef

    - salad topped with olive oil and balsamic vinagriette and carrots or cooked spinach topped with lemon juice

    -water

    Afternoon snack at 2pm or 3:30pm:

    - same as mid-morning snack

    Dinner at 5:30pm or so

    - same as lunch

    - a small handful of nuts and a small handful of raisins

    - water

    Evening snack at 8:30 or 9pm.

    - cottage cheese with a scoop of protein, a tablespoon of ground flax seed, two tablespoons of natural peanut butter. I like it best when the protein tastes like vanilla. If not, then I'll add some frozen blueberries.

    - water

  46. Gravatar

    Apostolos 10:24am Nov 24, 2009

    Nate, I've noticed that you have coffee with your breakfast...

    My first question is, do you drink it WITH your breakfast, of BEFORE breakfast?

    And second, do you think it's important for the average trainee to be concerned about caffeine's impact on insulin sensitivity?

    (and btw, I've read t-nation's caffeine roundtable...)

  47. Gravatar

    Nate Green 10:29am Nov 24, 2009

    @ Apostolos

    Thanks for the note, man.

    I usually start drinking it before but finish it with breakfast.

    Nope; not really. I think that's "majoring in minor shit". Sure, it may make an impact, but I don't think it'll be drastic. Then again, I'm not a chemist. :)

    -Nate

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    Jon McClure 9:14am Aug 30, 2011

    Hey Nate, discovered your blog taday and I really like your practical approach to training. I can really relate to you even though I'm a bit older at 36. I've gone through phases of wanting to be as hyooooge as possible and having to eat x grams of protien per day, avoiding fun activities because I need to be fresh for my workout, etc. Fortunatly for you, you matured out of that mindset younger than I did. What's the point in training so diligently if you can use the fitness you've gained to have fun.

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    kenedy 9:29pm Sep 24, 2011

    Hey Nate, do you do carb cycling for you photo shoots or something like that? Please let me know...

    Thankyou in advance!

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    David 8:08pm Oct 15, 2011

    Hey Nate,

    Great article. I was just wondering why you didn't eat processed carbs. The cereal I eat every morning is your typical All Bran. It says it's made with whole wheat and wheat bran. It's low-sugar and practically fat-free. What do you think?

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    How about right after workout?

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    I wish I have money to eat chicken every day! ;)

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